EP82 - Professional Organizer - Organizing the Organization, Kathleen O’Brien


Kathleen O’Brien joins us to explain her techniques in stress reduction through stuff reduction. She tells Michael about her SPACE System of sorting, purging, assigning a home, containerizing and then equalizing the physical, digital, and emotional piles in your workspace.

Kathleen is unique in the field of organizers in that she works with corporate clients, rather than individuals. She explains how bad habits tend to form from the top down and can be hard to break until there’s enough pain, struggle, and financial loss to force a drastic change. Growing enterprises may need organization officers as well as planners and operations managers.

The pair also get into how Kathleen became a Professional Organizer, how she deals with clients’ feelings of shame and guilt, and needs to keep secrets as part of her job.